, senator marco rubio took his push to win over conservatives to the bipartisan immigration plan unveiled just yesterday. he took a show on the road to the rush limbaugh show trying to influence one of the most influential voices on the right it's not an amnesty for an earned citizenship plan and limbaugh asked what all this means for some call the president's plan to obliterate the gop. >> on your first point about them beating us up for two years it is not an agreement. that's precisely why i thought it was important that the principles out there early. they can try to sell that but i doubt people are going to buy it. >> happening within the hour, president obama will arrive in vegas where just a few minutes ago, the white house confirmed the white house will embrace the senate plan unveiled yesterday this time and despite the headline in "washington post," quote, obama to announce his immigration reform plan said to be more liberal than the senate effort. our first read team calls that reporting outdated, writing, that it had the bipartisan senators not acted yesterday, you li

opportunity to do it right. if we do, we will do a tremendous service to our country. >> marco rubio leading the way on immigration reform. good morning, i'm bill karins. this is "way too early." four of us are in the room. we warned a d.c. gang of eight, stay off our turf. thanks for joining us. we have a lot to talk about including a parting gift for hillary clinton as they helped the outgoing secretary of state tie up loose ends. those details straight ahead plus -- >> i'm not trying to take off a credit card. i think that it's clear that going up against me prepared them to take on kevin durant. the president welcomes the 2012 miami heat and share a lighter moment with lebron. that's in sports. first, let's get to the news live at 5:30 a.m. in new york city. president obama is going to unveil his immigration reform in a major speech in nevada, a state where hispanics make up 20% of the population. it's after a group of bipartisan senators reached a compromise on how to move forward with comprehensive immigration legislation. included in the bill, citizenship for 11 million undocumented w

republican base are not as simple as they might look right now. i would say the involvement of a marco rubio, who is sort of the face of the national tea party, his involvement in this does help. it does give some cover to conservatives who either feel like they need or want to be for it. >> and, in fact, susan, i think you were at a breakfast with marco rubio that we were both at last summer when he wanted to present an immigration plan. the romney team told him not to, and so president obama moved quickly with his dream proposals. >> so we never got that detailed plan from marco rubio to address the problem of kids who are brought here illegal. a big opportunity for marco rubio to show political skills, he is now the emissary to conservative republicans in the house and conservative news media to make the case that this is not amnesty, that this is an acceptable proposal that they could embrace, and if he manages to do that, that will be a great achievement on his part for a pretty junior senator. >> thanks very much. susan page, chris, thanks both. joining me now for more on the immigration de

, marco rubio was on with rush limbaugh and rush posed this question to senator rubio that there are people who are now coming to this country basically because they want to live off the government. he compared them to people of emigrated to this country in the past, hard workers and now you have a group of people who essentially want to be on welfare. when you hear that notion, or that idea coming from the leading voice in the conservative party, your party, the republicans, what do you say that to? >> well, remember, an i respect anybody's point of view but he's not a member of our leadership. he's not a member of the house or the senate. he has the right, obviously, under the first amendment and we all appreciate that to say whatever he wants but we can deal with issues of making sure people who are here are not a charge on the public system. we can deal with those issues through legislative language. the question is this. do we want to solve what the american people know is absolutely broken or talk about it and do nothing about it? if we want to solve it, what i'm saying is that

. another senator who wants to get ahead of this story, senator marco rubio write, "my hope is president obama will use his voice and influence to further this approach. however, if what he offers is a process for the undocumented that is more lenient, faster and unfair to those waiting to completely, it won't bode well for reform." striking a much friendlier tone on sunday, this is what senator mccain said of the president's effort. >> believe it or not i see a glimmer of bipartisan out there. >> we have president obama out there pushing a plan. does it help? hurt? >> i think it helps. i think it's important we all work to the on this. >> this will be the first time mccain has signed on to any major obama initiative, though mccain supported fiscal legislation, he opposed don't ask/don't tell and the new start treaty. no one is sure how speaker boehner proceeds, does he violate the so-called hastert rule again? by the way, as for what the president does tomorrow, don't expect specific legislation. there was some talk that they might do that. i'm told that the congressional hispanic caucu

, carl rove and the 60 minutes interview. rove is next. >>> marco rubio said most of them have been embodied in this bipartisan eight-member senate panel, republicans ought to give it a clear strong look as you saw from your interview with marco rubio, it emphasizes strong border security, guest worker program and a fair, but tough, resolution of the issue of the people here already. >> bill: but generally speaking very no beef with senator rubio's plan z i hope they get them together but they aren't as a dressed with carey catherine ham and juan williams you're going to have a lot of new americans here, you're going to have 12 million here, they're going bring in another 12-15. we're talking 20, 25 million invested in this country. half of the illegal aliens now as i said sh receiving means entitlements. how are they going to deal with that? >> we're not bringing in 12 then another 12. as marco explained to you and panel has endorsed today that concept is that if you're here illegally, you can surface, get a card awill youing to you stay in the country, and work. if you want citize

pledging not to give any ground. here is senator marco rubio on fox news this morning. >> the president sees this as an opportunity to move this issue to the left, to try to outbid us on immigration. i think this speaks poorly on the outcome of this entire endeavor. >> jennifer: that's interesting. he was criticizing the president before the president had even spoken today. why would he do that? well senator rubio is on a short list for possible presidential list for 2014. and he needs to shore up his own support from the right wing, and to do that he has to speak against hissing i we foes, the president, and one big hurdle for him is all the false information that is out there about the plan. so here he is in that same fox interview dispelling one of the biggest lies circulating on the right wing blogs. >> there are some who say you're adding millions to the dole. 6 million will get government assistance. if that's not accurate, why is that the case. the immigration you spelled out so far will prevent that. >> i won't support a bill that does that, i can tell you that much. that's not

thoughts on this? we've seen paul ryan, marco rubio extend a hand to president obama so to speak and suggest they are ready to talk about immigration reform. what's the biggest hurdle here? >> well, i think the biggest hurdle in the end is going to be politics, of course, but the issue of citizenship. what marco rubio outlined this week and last weekend is very close to what president obama talked about in 2011. and so i think that will provide some cover for other republicans. when you've got someone like marco rubio, a rising star in the party, paul ryan, saying we're ready to do a deal here, but the devil is in the details as they always say. democrats feel very emboldened on this issue, and they're going to sort of, you know, swing for the fences. they want full legal status, including citizenship for undocumented immigrants and it's not clear how far republicans will go to do that. >> scott, it is clear that they're listening because senator rubio had before only supported very small steps in the immigration reform debate, a series of small bills. he did not want a big sweeping

with something. i think you're going to see that marco rubio has laid a lot of the groundwork by selling these principles. he's gotten great endorsement and support from some of the most right-winged pundit makers. now it's time to act upon it and grow it from there but it is basically the only thing happening in congress today where there is a bipartisan movement on both -- in both chambers and both sides of the aisle. >> but, ana, i've been hear about about marco rubio and the gang of six. why haven't we heard from them? >> timing is everything. you know what, don lemon? i wouldn't put money on them waiting on the president. the president's going to speak on tuesday. i wouldn't be surprised if these senators who are tremendously strategic and know how to play the political game and defend third bipartisan process, i wouldn't be surprised if they preempt the president, do it tomorrow, do it before the president does on tuesday. these are not folks that wait on the president. these folks act. >> so you think they may come out on monday. do you know something we don't? >> oh, i kn

and american civics. members of this group of eight is senator marco rubio of florida. he's a key voice in getting conservatives to sign off on an amnesty plan. >> we have to be sure not to encourage people to come here illegally in the future. by the same token, we are dealing with 11 million human beings who are here undocumented. the majority of whom who recognize it as the american dream. let me say on both sides of this issue, there are legitimate points to be raised. there are people concerned about how much this is going to cost the american economy. we have to be frank of dealing with that. we owe $16 trillion. >> there's a small majority of americans, 51% support a plan that allows undocumented workers to stay and apply for citizenship. they hope to vote in march. jim is joining us. good morning. >> how are you? >> the senate is all in on this one. this is a big comprehensive plan. >> it is. i think it is significant. chuck schumer was saying you have mccain and rubio up there with chuck schumer shows there's bipartisan appeal. it could fall apart. house republicans gave

it could scuttle the compromise marco rubio, coming up here in "america's newsroom.". >>> meanwhile we have new numbers what americans think about this immigration reform idea. new "fox news poll". 66% of the those questioned do support a policy that allows a path to citizenship. 17% say illegals must be sent home. they have broken the law. 13% are in favor of a guest worker program. those who support citizenship also believe that individuals should pay their back taxes, learn english, and pass a background check. all of which has been part of john mccain's plan for quite some time. bill: the numbers on the current state of immigration in the u.s., they are truly staggering. there are roughly 11 million immigrants here in the u.s. illegally. that is down from the record of more than 12 million five years ago. the vast majority, 80%, come from mexico and latin america. in 2012, last year alone, more than half of all those facing deportation were convicted criminals. martha: some new information right now on what could mark a dramatic reversal for the boy scouts of america and its ove

donnie fowler will tell us what jeb bush and marco rubio aren't getting along. and then the great brett ehrlich. >> coming up how is fox news getting over the loss but when joint pain and stiffness from psoriatic arthritis hit even the smallest things became difficult. i finally understood what serious joint pain is like. i talked to my rheumatologist and he prescribed enbrel. enbrel can help relieve pain, stiffness, and stop joint damage. because enbrel, etanercept suppresses your immune system, it may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events including infections tuberculosis lymphoma, other cancers, and nervous system and blood disorders have occurred. before starting enbrel your doctor should test you for tuberculosis and discuss whether you've been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. don't start enbrel if you have an infection like the flu. tell your doctor if you're prone to infections, have cuts or sores have had hepatitis b have been treated for heart failure, or if, while on enbrel, you experience persistent fever, bruising, ble

friend donnie fowler will tell us what jeb bush and marco rubio aren't getting along. and then the great brett ehrlich. >> coming up, how is fox news getting over the loss of sarah palin? i'll tell you later in the show. >> jennifer: here is what we know when it comes to gun safety in congress. president obama wants gun safety legislation. house republicans don't like president obama, but house republicans do like police officers. so with that in mind today, president obama invited 13 police chiefs and sheriffs to the white house to discuss gun violence. >> if law enforcement officials who are dealing with this stuff every single day can come to some basic consensus, congress will be paying at attention to them and we'll be able to make progress. >> jennifer: progress that will be novel, but if the senate can move ahead with immigration reform, i say anything is possible. joining me now is democratic strategist donnie fowler. welcome back. >> good to be here. >> jennifer: good policy to have the chiefs and sheriffs come and make the pitch on gun safety. >> there is no more credibil

move forward with immigration reform, marco rubio. >> senator, forgive me for interrupting, but as we move forward on immigration, your words, are you prepared, and do you think a majority of republicans are prepared, to give some legal status, whether full citizenship or legal status, to the full 8 million people here in this country illegally? >> this is something that needs to be discussed and debating. we have been debating it and discussing within our policy lunches. marco rubio is raising a number of different ways we can deal with the issues we face on immigration. that's the backbone of our country. the sena i'm the son of immigrants, and thinking about this, my dad took me to john kennedy's inauguration when i was 8. he was a cement finisher, had to quit school in ninth grade. this country is built on hard working men and women, the sons and daughters of immigrants. immigration is key and important for our nation. >> senator barrassso, i appreciate your time. margaret, i want to start with you. cautious. republicans said let's get things done. but when they ask specific quest

future. lou: joining us now, senator marco rubio, republican of florida. great to have you with us. >> thank you. lou: and here we go. are you confident that this is the best path to take going forward? >> well, i think it is important to alamo we have been talking about. is a set of principles as are important in the architecture and the on line of what you want to do, but now you have to work on the details of the bill. that is really where this is going to be important. by the way, whenever we work on as a starting point. there are 92 other senats who have opinions about immigration. house of representatives. and we have gotten away from the process of making law, but it is important for us to follow in order to have a good product. this is a complicated issue. both sides of this issue raised legitimate points that need to be addressed. but today was a good first step in what will be a pretty long process in terms of getting the right ideas on paper and ultimately into law. lou: when you talk about going through committees, going through hearings, talking about regular order, th

rolling out a comprehensive immigration reform proposal. one of the architects is senator marco rubio. he will be here in moments. mixed news on the economy leading to mixed results on the street. durable goods orders of stern expected. pending home sales weaker than expected. the dow fell 14 points, as in the retreating three, and the nasdaq of four and a half. volume on the big board today, three and a half million shares. caterpillar reporting profits dropped 55% in the fourth quarter. stockouts are rallying of nearly 2% on the date. toyota regaining its but as the number one global carmaker, selling nine and recorder million cars and trucks last year, topping general motors and volkswagen. the news did not help the stock price down dollar 32. yahoo shares up sharply in electronic trading. the news had earned $0.32 a share, for some special expected. revenue also started an expected in the credit market, yields on a ten year treasury crossing above 2% for the first time since last april. closing today with a yield of just under 2%. my next guest is part of the so-called gang of eight t

republicans curtailing a deal? probably not because if marco rubio is someone when's very well liked by a bunch of conservative house republicans, if they get something through the senate with rubio's name attached to it, it's difficult not to move forward and you have seen things over the last year, give you an example, the fiscal cliff deal, the way that passed out of the u.s. senate with overwhelming bipartisan support, went to the house and house republicans angry about it and wanted to stop it. guess what. they folded at the end. but i'm going back to something i mentioned yesterday. i think the whole game for this is two things. one, the president's speech right there sort of saying, look, i'll let congress work the will which is significant because members in both chambers want that to happen. and then this idea of enforcement. they did an amazing thing on rush limbaugh. he made rush limbaugh come over to accept possible immigration reform. that is no easy task but what is -- how did he do that? making the case for enforcement. so what exactly is that enforcement mechanism tha

reform by the end of this year. chuck schumer, john mccain, dick durbin, marco rubio and bob menendez will discuss the plan. we'll bring it to you live. our first read team notes this is the first time senator mccain signed on to a priority of president obama. he takes the vision on the road to las vegas. but within the last hour, white house press secretary jay carney confirmed the president would not unveil specific legislation. the plan unveiled today would be the first major immigration overhaul proposal in six years but one border state democrat congressman castro of texas say that is the devil is in the details. >> we've got to make sure that those measurements, when we have determined that we have secured the border, that those measurements are objective. otherwise you will have fights down the road where folks are saying, well, wait a minute. let's not move on to the second phase of the bill because we have not first completed the first phase. >> besides border security, there's guest workers and employer verification and a path to citizenship for the 11 million illeg

. >> i do like the thinks marco rubio is laying out. >> former senator marco rubio is a tea party favorite and a potential presidential candidate in 2016. many here say he's a key to getting conservatives to support the bill. >> i support and agree with the principles he laid out about earned legalization. making sure we can fix this problem. >> and then there's the political calculus. some republicans say they need this bill to win over hispanic voters. >> i'll given you a little straight talk. look at the last election. look at the last election. we are losing dramatically the hispanic vote which we think should be ours for a variety of reasons, and we've got to understand that. >> hispanics supported president obama over mitt romney with more than 70% of the vote. now, this senate plan could face a tougher time in the house, which is controlled by republicans, but it's not even legislate yet. this is simply a four-page list of principles. and tomorrow, anne-marie, we get the president's vision. >> susan mcginnis in washington. thank you. >>> well, this morning another winter st

your advice to republicans on that? >> well, i think marco rubio laid out an excellent set of principles that looks like many of them, most of them have been embodied in this bipartisan 8-member senate panel republicans ought to give it a we clear strong look as you saw from your interview with marco unionio recently it emphasizes strong border security. a guest worker program and a fair but tough resolution of the issue of the people here already illegally. >> bill: generally speaking, i had no beef with senator rubio's plan and i hope they get something together. they are aren't as i addressed with juan williams and mary katharine ham. really coming to gripsz with one of the severe problems. you are going to have a lot of new americans here. you are going to have 12 million here and they are going to bring in another 12 to 15. we are talking 20 to 25 million. basically invested in this country. half of the illegal aliens now as i said, receiving means entitlement. how are they going to deal with this? >> well, first of all, we're not bringing in 12 and then bringing in anoth

rape. the republican party is in a distinctly different place. my question is marco rubio is out there with his plan. there's a sort of general circling of the wagon, but practically speaking in washington, is a house republican caucus going to vote -- move forward legislation that offers a path to citizen shi? >> it's a great question. you want to see the video game ber moving simultaneously, but i think people should be heartened by what happened today. there was a rush to put a face on immigration reform. you don't rush to back something that you think is going down in flames. you want to be associated with it. the fact that the senators jumped ahead of the president on this is a good sign, and, you know, john mccain knows this very well. he knows it firsthand. he in 2008 had to abandon some of the positions in order to win the republican primary. it cost him dearly. he is a living embodiment. to your point about whether it's good or not that they had a moral enlightenment. tloo whether they actually did. >> who cares? this is called democracy, and the fact that more voters no

wright live. thank you. this morning we are hearing from florida senator marco rubio. rubio sitting down with sean hannity to discuss the senate proposal we told you about yesterday and discussing what he thinks are the necessary steps in the immigration process. there must be enforcement measures before a green card. >> i think it's a good time to remind people the vast majority of con sefb tives favor legal immigration. we don't have a little immigration that works right now. illegal immigration undermine illegal immigration. he we understand we have to deal with this. we have 11 million people by all accounts are going to be here the rest of their lives with or without documents. we can't do anything to deal with 11 million people that is unfair to people who have done it the right way or number two will encourage illegal immigration in the future. that's whey your point is so crucial. must be a part of any final bill, that is this, before we can move for the pass for green cards because citizenship comes after that. pass the green card. before we move to a passport green card th

have a presidential level of credibility in such hearings. republican senator marco rubio has been talking tough about benghazi for months. >> one of the narratives that the obama campaign has laid out, osama bin laden is dead, they e retreated. you start to say do they allow any story to emerge that counters that narrative. is that why they told us that benghazi was a popular uprising, because it ran counter to their campaign narrative. >> and so the pressure was on senator rubio to deliver to all his fans all the fire and brim stone they had a right to expect. he was not just facing the secretary of state, who took responsibility for what happened in benghazi. he was facing possibly the next democratic nominee for president. tonight, the marco rubio fans could not be more disappointed. >> one of the things that i'm more interested in exploring to you, how information flows within the state department. were you ever asked to participate in any sort of internal or inter-agency meeting before this attack with regard to the deteriorating security situation in libya? did this issue co

marco rubio. left/right coalition on immigration, mark. how does that work? >> i think it speaks to the ideological diversity of our country and, actually, the evolution of the senate now. and, you know, you see senate republicans that used to treat compromise like a dirty word and now they're coming out and putting forward a proposal with their democratic colleagues that to a large degree mirrors the key principles that the president has identified. i do agree this is a golden opportunity for senators like marco rubio and with the other guests that mentioned that, but i do disagree that the president hasn't shown leadership here. he has been talking about comprehensive immigration reform as a key priority of the first, you know, as the beginning of the second term. so i think that what the senate democrats and republicans have done is gotten out in front and trying to make -- take ownership of this issue. they see it's going to happen. the president has give it an air of inevitability. and i'm encouraged by the signs here. >> one thing you have to watch is what senator flake just said.

guy. here is marco rubio. i think he may have split ambitions. if he does it right with the eight senators, four democrats, four republicans and they coalesce with the president, the president will get credit. he may be willing to share the headline here. here he is. he spoke to rush limbaugh today. this is marco rubio of florida. here he is. >> i know this is a tough issue. i do. i know why people are uncomfortable about it. it doesn't feel right to in some instances to, you know, allow people who have come here undocumented to be able to stay. i know for some people they're uncomfortable with this notion. this is a tough issue to work through. i think this is a significant challenge we face. i know the president is going to take us in a direction i would not be comfortable with and i don't think it's good for america. i'm trying to do the whes i can with what's already a tough spation. >> he's probably the only guest on the show to say undoumented workers rather than aliens. listen to how limbaugh looked at it. >> i have seen a number of research, scholarly research data, which

background check and learn english and american civics. yesterday, marco rubio in florida sought to win over conservatives opposed to any deal with threats of amnesty. >> there are over 11 million workers undocumented. that's not something any wanted to see happen. it is what has happened. we have an obligation and need to address the reality of the situation we face. i think today is an important first step in what's going to be a significant complicated journey. the issue of immigration is not a simple one. we have the opportunity to do it right and if we do, i think we'll do a tremendous service to our country. snow jo . >> joe, remains to be seen how far this gets but you see john mccain and lindsey graham talking about what they're talking about in terms of a bill that even hints at amnesty. >> no doubt about it, things have changed in the last five years. there will still be conservatives in the house who want to be assured by marco rubio and john mccain and any conservative that supports this bill that won't be a repeat of 1996, that was an out-right amnesty bill, it really didn'

matter what we do. now there are some republicans on board. marco rubio, john mccain, lindsey graham saying, look, this has to be in the proposal. can they rally republicans in the house and senate behind the political necessity of putting immigration reform behind them with a path to sit sfwlenship or not? that seems to me to be the rub. >> with 2016 on their minds, we can also talk about the unusual joint interview the president and secretary of state hillary clinton and her last week in office jointly being appearing on "60 minutes." chuck todd, this was not an endorsement, they all say. it was a thank you. it was an interesting development to see these two together after aall that had proceeded in 2008. i was fascinated by this part of the interview where they were asked by steve croft about the residual resentments by staff and spouses that last lasted longer than the principles. let's watch. >> we both built some pretty thick skins. you know, sometimes our staffs don't go through that. they are taking umbrage and offense. hellry handled this, i assume as i do, we have a block,

joined by one of the lawmakers who helped put this together. senator marco rubio from florida, but first, here is how the deal was announced earlier today. the eight senators who came up with this plan have a number of goals in mind. now, first, they want to secure our borders and that means first, the agreement calls for creating a path to citizenship for those who are already living here in the united states illegally and they also want to reform the legal immigration system that the u.s. has in place and they want to create an effective employment verification system to prevent the hiring of unauthorized workers which will help combat identity theft and establishing an improved process for future workers it to serve our work force needs. tomorrow, president obama is expect today layout his vision for sweeping immigration reforms and billed as a major speech, however, ahead of that and in response to what we heard today out of the senate i thought i would share my views, as a conservative on this topic. now, the issue of immigration has been used as a political wedge by democrats

look after them. ...it's my job to look after it. ♪ >> more with senator marco rubio. and house nearly three months to raise the debt ceiling. >> look, i understand why they want to move the initiative forward and i think there is some strategicty to the way they're doing it it and i believe the second part the of it it, congress shouldn't get paid unless a budget is passed. no one wants to miss a paycheck certainly, but i think it's a very valid point and i think that it's not unfair to say to the people if you're not going to do your job, you shouldn't get paid. >> greta: and we keep getting these, like goal posts and mile posts and three more months. >> absolutely. >> greta: six more months and another excuse-- >> in fairness, i think it's the house. if they believed they could pass a bill out of house that not only dealt with the debt limit, but with our debt problem and passed out of the senate and signed by the president they would do it in a heartbeat. that's not what they're facing. they want facing a president that wants unconditional limits and the senate hasn't passed a budg

. >> greta: today, marco rubio grilling secretary of state clinton about security for americans in libya long before the september 11th attack. were his questions answered by the secretary of state? we spoke with senator rubio a short time ago. >> the part i wants today focus on how it's possible you have an interview with the prime minister, and the consulate is not raised to an alert. air the secretary of state and your staff isn't coming to you and say we have a problem. 200 attacks and britain pulled out of benghazi and how weren't there discussion abouts these topics, the answer is either the meetings happened or they didn't and we have a problem in the state department how information flows. so to me, it's not just about assigning blame, it's figuring out what went wrong internally so this never happens again. >> did you get at that answer. i think what we found out is that secretary clinton met with the prime minister and the issue of security was not touched, but not deeply, again, i don't understand how that's possible. >> in october of 2011 or-- >> both, october of 2011 s